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 Post subject: ATU testing
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:29 pm 
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Is there a way to test the ATU? I am recently experiencing problems tuning to the upper end of the 40 meter band. I cannot get better than about 4.0:1. If I by pass the HR50, I can tune to 1:1 with my KX2, so I know it is not the antenna. Plus, if I drop down slightly in the band, the HR50 tuner will tune to 1.2:1. Could I have a "sticky" relay?

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AI6B (formerly KB6BB)


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 Post subject: Re: ATU testing
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:13 am 
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Hi,

Yes there is a set of commands designed to allow you to exercise individual steps in the L's and C's in the ATU. If you connect the HR50 to a PC using USB, you can use a terminal emulator program, like Termite, to set the L's and C's in the tuner. There are a total of 7 inductors and 7 capacitors for 127 steps. To test L's set C to 0 and set L to 0,1,2,4,8,16,32,64 in sequence this will test each individual coil. Set L to 0 to test the caps.

The operating manual has the command format on page 21, which I'll copy here:

HRTM; (HR50 ATU Message/Response)

SET/RSP format HRTM<tuner message>;

Example HRTMC?; requests the current capacitor setting in the ATU.
HR50 responds HRTM 8; the ATU capacitor is set to step 8 out of 127

Tuner Messages:

A Initiate an autotune sequence
Bxx, B? Set/query band setting uses bands listed above except UNK = 11
Cxxx, C? Set/query capacitor step value (0 - 127)
E Commands tuner to erase all stored tuning solutions
Fxxx, F? Set/query ATU memory channel
Hx, H? Set/query capacitor position 0 = input, 1 = output
I Query ATU information responds ‘HRTMHR50 ATU version x.x’
Lxxx, L? Set/query inductor step value (0 – 127)
Px Query RF power reading x = F (average fwd), R (average reverse), P (PEP forward)
Q Store the currently applies tuning solution in the current freq/band memory
S Query the status of the last autotune cycle S (success), F (fail), L (power too low), A (abort)
V Query the ATU firmware revision responds ‘HRTMx.x;’
W Query SWR reading responds 1.0 – 9.9 or --- if the power is too low
Yx, Y? Set/query ATU bypass 0 = engaged, 1 = bypassed

Please let us know what you find.

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Jim WA2EUJ


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 Post subject: Re: ATU testing
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:52 pm 
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Thanks Jim,

I am unable to get a handshake with Termite 3.4. Using Baud Rate 38400, 8N1. Com Port verified.

AI6B


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 Post subject: Re: ATU testing
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:40 pm 
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'unable to get a handshake'.

Do you have the USB Baud rate in the HR50 set to 38400? Not the ACC Baud rate that's a different port.

Set Termite to terminate the line with a <CR> then send "HRBN;<CR>" without the quotes. The HR50 should respond with the number of the band that it's set to.

Jim.


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 Post subject: Re: ATU testing
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:09 pm 
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I cannot get Termite to communicate with my HR50. What mode should my HR50 be in? I have it "on" Key:Off. Menu 3, Termite and Comm Port all set to 38500, 8,1,N.

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AI6B
Bryan


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 Post subject: Re: ATU testing
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:35 am 
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Hi Bryan,

Are you certain that you know which COM port is the HR50?

Turn on the HR50 and unplug the HR50's USB cable, go to Divice Manager, expand the 'Port (COM & LPT) tab, the plug in the HR50's USB cable and see which port shows up in the list.

The HR50 communicates in every mode except during a transmission. You can issue commands the change the HR50's mode.

Can you send me screen shots of your termite set up?

jim (at) hobbyPCB (dot) com

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Jim WA2EUJ


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 Post subject: Re: ATU testing
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:31 am 
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Jim,

Thanks for sticking with this. I am quite sure that I have everything set up correctly. I checked the Com port at the start when I installed Termite. It might be my USB cable. I will be at my home QTH on Thursday where I have other cables and will try again. Stay tuned.

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AI6B


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 Post subject: Re: ATU testing
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:38 pm 
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Jim,

I tried it at my home, with a different cable and with Termite on a different PC: same result.

Attached is screen shot of setup. I am probably missing something basic here.

Maybe I have a bad connection on the HR50 rear panel. I just received the rear panel upgrade kit today in the mail. Maybe I should install it before I try again.

I tried to upload a screenshot.png, but received an error message that maximum allowed file size is 2MB. I scaled the file down to 1.88 MB and tried again to load it, and received the error message that the maximum allowed size is 256 K. I tried various options of tiff and jpg, all less than 2M, and was not able to upload a file.

Needless to say, I feel like a damn idiot, and am about to give up. I will try emailing you the screenshot png.

AI6B


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